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    Posted: 17 October 2007 at 4:21am

Hello,

I get a cover from Paris (France) nov.7 1925 to Teheran nov.22 1925, franking 2,20 francs (it could be a third scale of weight in the oct.1925 french UPU rate), Via Russie.

What can you tell me about this Russian way form France to Persia ? Was it the ordinary way, and which was the road and rate ? Or which was the ordinary way ?

Thank you.

D.

 



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Europe, as well as Russia had early extensive rail connections. The Trans-Kaspian railroad, from the eastern side of the Caspian, opposite ferry-harbour Baku, to Bochara was finished shortly after 1900. Depending on the destination via Tiflis to Persia or via Baku to Persia. For the Persian Gulf, Bouchir, by sea via India. Like the post from Iran to France. Unfortunately, such covers usually do not bear transit marks  The Persian language on the envelope was for the Persian distribution.

Completely opposite to early outward post, carrying often route instructions, even transit cancellations.

Route instructions like Via Russia, Via Brindisi and Bombay, even via Karachi and Dozdab, or via Aschgabad are often present, well past WWI. But still no helpful transit cancellations, no proof the route indication was followed in simple cases like via Russia.

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I think the ordinary way would be the Orient Express to Constantinopel, then the german Baghdad railway thru Turkey.

The Russian way could travel from Bucarest to Odessa, Rostov et Tifflis or Baku.

There is an intersting text signed Luigi Villary (Fire and sword in the Caucasus - London, T. F. Unwin, 1906) :

"A traveller wishing to go from Europe to Teheran has the choice of two routes. There is the usual route by rail across Russia to Baku, by steamer across the Caspian to Resht, and thence on by a road built, financed, and kept up by Russia to the Persian capital. A second route is viā Tiflis, Erivan, and Nakhitchevan to Djulfa on the Araxes, across that river, and on to Tabriz by another Russian road. Section by section the Djulfa railway has advanced, first to Alexandropol where it branches off to Kars, then to Erivan, a few months ago to Nakhitchevan, and a little later to Djulfa. The Russian road from the Persian village opposite Djulfa to Tabriz has been so constructed that a railway could be laid upon it at very short notice. A bridge across the Araxes would complete the chain, and St. Petersburg would thus be in direct railway communication with Tabriz."

The Djulfa-Tabriz railway opened in 1916.

http://perso.orange.fr/jef.estel/
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hallo Rainer,

what do you think about that :

http://perso.orange.fr/jef.estel/teheruss.html

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http://perso.orange.fr/jef.estel/
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rainer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 October 2007 at 4:37am
Hi Jef,

that looks very nice, but honestly, I am not the authority to judge the accuracy of the informations you provided on your web pages..

Keep up the good work.
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